Ichiro Sized Heart of the Order

Ichiro Pose
During our rankings conference call for the outfielders I told the others guys that the word on the street was that Ichiro may be moved out of the leadoff spot for the Mariners.  I posed the scenario that he’d land in the 3 spot. I kid you not it was crickets followed by, “that’s about the most asinine thing ever.”  After a few spring training games it looks like good ole Nashy was on the same page as Mr. Wedge, the Seattle manager.

I immediately texted Clave and Dixon: “Who called it? This guy!”.  The first text back: “I wouldn’t want credit for calling such a dumb idea…”; second text: “I’m with Dixon…”  I will now refer to those 2 naysayers as the CrackerJerks for the remainder of this post!

The Fact is that Seattle doesn’t have much, and what they do have just ain’t what it use to be.  Ichiro is not the prototypical sabermetric lead-off guy. He is a contact hitter with great speed who does NOT take many walks.  So for me the move is not crazy. It may not work, but it is not crazy!

Ichiro can hit the ball into play and get on base, and doing so effectively moves guys into scoring position, racking up some RBIs in the process.  Besides, who else on this team would be a good fit for the Opening Day heart-of-the-order hitter?  Justin Smoak? Jesus Montero? Chone Figgins?!  I think not. And while I do believe Montero is the #3 hitter of the future for this team, he needs a little less pressure to get his feet wet.

How is this for an opening day line-up for the M’s?

1 Chone Figgins  3B 395 36 1 29 17 .247
2 Dustin Ackley  2B 472 59 9 55 11 .271
3 Ichiro Suzuki RF 556 79 8 49 32 .290
4 Justin Smoak 1B 495 57 16 68 1 .242
5 Jesus Montero DH 490 52 23 56 0 .284
6 Mike Carp LF 490 67 21 74 0 .267
7 Miguel Olivo C 450 47 18 57 7 .238
8 Franklin Gutierrez CF 475 53 6 44 15 .249
9 Brendan Ryan SS 505 49 2 49 11 .261


OK, now some of these numbers were projected for players at their normal spots in the line-up or before they were traded. So allow me to tweak them just a tad to reflect this new line-up holding:

1 Chone Figgins  3B 395 36 1 26 17 .247
2 Dustin Ackley  2B 472 59 9 55 11 .271
3 Ichiro Suzuki RF 556 76 13 71 26 .292
4 Justin Smoak 1B 495 57 18 68 1 .242
5 Jesus Montero DH 505 52 21 63 0 .281
6 Mike Carp LF 485 63 19 68 0 .268
7 Miguel Olivo C 450 47 18 57 7 .238
8 Franklin Gutierrez CF 475 53 6 44 15 .249
9 Brendan Ryan SS 505 49 2 49 11 .261


Some of the projections didn’t change at all, while some – Ichiro and Montero – change pretty drastically.

Of course, I don’t expect Ichiro to be a 30/30 guy all of the sudden, but reports are that he came in to ST with a wider stance at the plate for more balance.  So odds are he knew about his move to the 3 hole earlier than we did.  Also, if anyone has seen him take BP you know that he certainly can hit the ball over the fence when allowed to do so.  So I wouldn’t be shocked at 15 HRs from him this year (again IF he sticks in the 3 spot).

No guarantees that works, of course, and who knows where Jesus Montero finished the season.  He will probably be moved to 4 or 3 by the end of this year.

This is not a line-up that I’d take many guys on my fantasy team, but there are some intriguing things to watch during spring training.

What do you think? Does Ichiro stick hitting at #3? Let us know in the comments.

Tags: Ichiro Jesus Montero Lineups Mariners Projections

  • Dixon

    Standing by my statement.

  • Nash

    Fair enough lol

  • Steve

    I like the move and the likelihood that he’ll be swinging for the fences with his altered stance. (Maybe he’ll produce similar HR numbers to his days in Japan.) It would be nice to see if he can adapt this late in his career, particularly since Ichiro is on my Fantasy team, and I need just about everyone in my order to have an uptick in HRs to be competitive in that category. If he hits 20, I am so buying his jersey.

  • Nash

    If he hits 20 homers I’ll buy you his jersey! In all seriousness I think it is a move that can work (as I stated before) but it is not something you should be banking on. Make sure to have a plan B if Ichiro is moved into the 2 spot which might sit better with most people from a baseball stand point.